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The Milton Keynes Sunday Citizen
Spotlight
During his 21 years as a Milton Keynes resident,
Big George Webley's career has taken more turns than there are
roundabouts in the city. His CV reads like a who's who of the
entertainment industry. Through his years spent as a session musician,
record producer, songwriter, broadcaster and freelance journalist,
he's worked with most household names. But like most CV's it only
tells half the story, as it fails to highlight the impact of he's
had on the arts scene here in Milton Keynes.
He is renowned and respected for being able to talk
for England, but unlike other stars residing in the city, Big
George has always taken time, and more importantly financially
helped fellow artists attain success. His encouragement has taken
on many forms, sometimes just verbally with time saving advice,
on other occasions with more personal involvement.
There are few local musicians, actors and artists
that haven't benefited from his advice and help. His infectious
appetite to succeed and refusal to abide by normal practice have
seen him secure many notable achievements. His biggest claim to
fame must be his TV signature tunes, including: Have I Got News
For You, Exclusive, Jo Brand and the forthcoming BBC TV comedy
series: Yes Sir, I Can Boogie.
His powerful personality has constantly broken down
traditional practices. His jamming of FM103 Horizon FM's radio
frequency in 1992, to highlight the lack of local artists being
played is a perfect example of his fortitude. In recent years
he has become a martyr for real radio. His shows on FM103 Horizon,
BBC GLR and recently BBC Three Counties received accolades from
both critics and the public for their individuality and musical
content.
Only last week MUSIC FILE, the BBC 2 education series
he presents won a prestigious European TV in Basle, Switzerland.
On boxing day part one of his "Look Back at a Century of
Recorded Music" will be broadcast live on BBC Three Counties
Radio between 5-7 pm Part two is on Wednesday December 29th, 5-7
pm
Before then, sit back and take a look at the big
man's choices and preferences while under the Sunday Citizen's
Spotlight.
NAME
Big George Webley
DATE AND PLACE OF BIRTH
5.50am, on the 29th of May 1957 in a tenement flat opposite Clapham
Common
CLAIM TO FAME
My tombstone will probably say - 'the geezer who wrote the music
for Have I Got News For You'
FAVOURITE FOOD
Chilli Griddled Spiced Up Chicken Mama and root vegetables, cooked
to perfection by Mrs. Webley, and chocolate of course
FAVOURITE RESTAURANT
Moffats in Stony Stratford High Street and Mrs Webleys kitchen
FAVOURITE DRINK
Earl Grey Tea, Evian, Perrier, Remy Martin, Champagne and real
Tequila with a squeezed lime when it's HOT
FAVOURITE PUB
Fox and Hounds in Stony Stratford High Street
FAVOURITE VENUE
Bluebird Cafe, Nashville Tennessee
FAVOURITE THEATRE
Windmill Theatre, Soho, London and the Fantastic New Milton Keynes
Theatre
FAVOURITE FILM
Harvey, starring James Stewart; Being There, starring Peter Sellers;
Arthur, starring Dudley Moore
FAVOURITE VIDEO
My Cousin Vinny and Withnail and I
FAVOURITE PLAY
Jeffrey Bernard is Unwell, starring Peter O'Toole
FAVOURITE SINGLE
Jimi Hendrix - The Wind Cries Mary - the first one I ever bought
FAVOURITE ALBUM
My family photo album
FAVOURITE BAND
The one I use to record TV signature tunes (the very finest players
in the country)
FAVOURITE DJ
Big up respect to Westwood, John Peel, Chris Moyles and the guys
and gals on Radio 2 and 3 (well most of them)
FAVOURITE BOOK
The Flashman papers by George MacDonald Fraser
NEWSPAPER AND MAGAZINE
Sound On Sound, MOJO, Private Eye and the Radio Times
FAVOURITE COMEDIAN
Tommy Cooper RIP - Eric Morecombe RIP - Bill Hicks RIP
FAVOURITE TV SHOW
Michael Moore - the Awful Truth and the Mark Thomas Product, or
is it Minder - with Dennis Waterman or maybe the Larry Sanders
Show?
FAVOURITE RADIO SHOW
BH 9am on Radio 4, Eddie Mair = Top Geezer
FAVOURITE MOTORCYCLE
The one Arnie rides in Terminator 2 or maybe that one in the Great
Escape with Steve McQueen
FAVOURITE CAR
2 litre Ford Cortina - mark II (circa 1975) - a top class motor
FAVOURITE SPORTING MOMENT
The last 90 seconds of the 1999 European cup final
FAVOURITE SPORTING HERO
"Ali Boom oi-aye" is without question the greatest -
also Mark Spitz, Steve Redgrave, Olga Korbet and George Best.
Although I have to say, David Beckham kicks a football better
than anyone I've ever seen
WHO WOULD YOU MOST LIKE TO HAVE BEEN - PAST OR PRESENT
Stan Laurel
WHO WOULD YOU HAVE LIKED TO HAVE MET
Mozart
WHO ARE AND WHAT HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST INFLUENCE
IN YOUR LIFE
Donald Swann when I was 7 years old and Herbie Flowers when I
was 19
WHO DO YOU MOST ADMIRE
Peaceful Tibetan and Chinese Protesters
NAME A SONG THAT CHANGED YOUR LIFE
Pee Po Belly Bum Drawers
WHAT TAPE/CD ARE YOU CURRENTLY LISTENING TO IN THE
CAR
I listen to BBC Radio 3 in the car, or any one of the other five
excellent BBC radio stations available to me in Milton Keynes.
The BBC is without doubt the finest broadcast institution and
programme maker on the planet, ever
NAME A TURNING POINT IN YOUR LIFE
Getting a call from top TV producer, Michael Hurl asking me to
be the Musical Director for the Derek Jameson chat show at the
beginning of Sky TV. It got me out of the record industry and
into the double edge joys of the broadcast media. The show ran
for 14 months straight, 5 nights a week, 350 hour long shows featuring
over 3,000 guests, from Jodie Foster to Robert Maxwell to Kenny
Everett to Barry Manilow
MOST EMBARRASSING MOMENT
Showing my Bum whilst standing in as the Peartree Bridge Family's
stunt bass player, or was it the other time I showed my bum in
public. I was on tour with the Q-tips at the time and we were
on our way to Hull to do a festival. We overtook a coach full
of Nuns, so we decided to slow down and let them overtake us.
Never a band to miss an opportunity, we all mooned out of the
window, then the van sped up and we all mooned as we passed them
on the other side. Then we slowed down again and mooned again.
This went on for about 20 minutes. As for those naughty Nuns,
were in hysterics
EXPLAIN THE GREATEST DAY IN YOUR LIFE
9.15pm on 26th of October 1977 at the Roxy Club in Covent Garden,
when a punk rocker and a cracking young lady in Fishnet stockings
met on the back stairs and fell in love at first sight
PET HATES
Dog owners who don't bag and bin
REGRETS
The invention of mobile phones
IF YOU COULD CHANGE ONE THING ABOUT MILTON KEYNES
WHAT WOULD IT BE
I'd sack ALL the politicians and get real people to run this wonderful
city of ours, for the right reasons. Milton Keynes is a Boom Town
and the greatest place in the world to bring up a family. We should
be leading the way with our elected representatives, not stuck
with the same old tarnished dogma
FAVOURITE LOCAL ALBUM
Blues Collective - Hot Hits Volume 1
FAVOURITE LOCAL BAND/ARTIST
Fin, Graham Dee, Paul Bell, Mick Abrahams and D.D. Powers
FAVOURITE LOCAL DJ
Trish and Glen Woods (they should both have their own shows on
local music radio)
IF YOU COULD CHANGE ONE THING ABOUT THE WORLD WHAT
WOULD IT BE
To stop poisoning the air we breath, the water we drink and the
food we eat, whilst at the same time having all the money currently
spent on weapons used to feed, clothe and give medical aid everyone
on planet, excluding no-one
AMBITIONS
To see my family grow to be healthy and happy
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QUESTION - Is it true you were not christened George,
if so, how did such a name come to be you and sorry to be cheesy
but what's the BIG bit all about?
BiG GEORGE - When I was very young I knew my name
was wrong. Up until the time I was 10 years old I'd toyed with
the idea of being calling Sandy Macksill, but no-one took me seriously.
Then when I was 11 years old, a programme on ITV called INSIDE
GEORGE WEBLEY starring Roy Kinnear went on air and I knew that
was what I was going to be called for the rest of my life. As
for the BIG, that's Herbie Flowers fault. I wrote to him when
I was a teenager asking for some career advice and he invited
me to meet him in a recording studio (the start of a two year
apprenticeship. The first time he set eyes on me he said "Hello
Big George", I said nothing but thought it was a bit of a
pain until a couple of weeks later, when I was walking down Oxford
St and the producer on the session Jeff Wayne (World of the Worlds,
Rock On etc) was walking towards me. I didn't think he'd recognise
me at the session, but he pointed straight at me and said "It's
Big George" and it has been ever since.
QUESTION - You seem to have breezed through life
doing exactly what you want to do, is this a fair assumption?
BiG GEORGE - Pretty much. I was a postman for three
days, as they wouldn't give a musician a mortgage, and when I
was a teenager I used to clean toilets in between gigs, but aside
from that I've led a blessed life
QUESTION - So what's the key, rich benefactor, good
bank manager, good fortune down at the bookies , pure luck or
pure old fashioned hard work?
BiG GEORGE - Being able to live without a regular
income, and not worrying about what you haven't got. The amount
of people I know who earn an absolute fortune but spend all their
time and energy in the unsatisfying quest to earn even more, I
simply can't understand it. A beggar on the street could do with
a couple more pound coins in the hat to secure another can of
Redstripe and Michael Jackson could do with another billion dollars
to purchase the rest of California, and that goes for all points
in between. We could all do with a few more bob. If you take that
out of the equation, life becomes a lot less stressed
QUESTION - For someone so emotionally embroiled
in the 1970's punk rock music scene it puzzles me why you swapped
the excitement of London for the cultural delights of Stony Stratford
at such a crucial time in your life?
BiG GEORGE - It was at the Roxy Club in Covent Garden
that I fell in love at first sight to a Punk rock chic. We wanted
to get married and have children as soon as possible. She was
born in Sherington (before it went up market) and after looking
at broom cupboards in East Ham for a million pounds we took a
drive up the M1 and never went back
QUESTION - Do you not feel the decision to leave
the jellied eels behind hindered you musical aspirations?
BiG GEORGE - What's more important? A happy family
life or being a media slag. Leaving London was the best decision
I ever made, apart from getting married and having children at
a relatively early age
QUESTION - There's no doubting the local and national
media see you as Mr Milton Keynes, are you comfortable with the
tag and why is this so?
BiG GEORGE - There's nothing I can do about it,
but being an evangelist for Milton Keynes comes easily to me,
I truly love it here.
QUESTION - For someone who's enjoyed more coverage
than most you are still very critical of the local media. What
would you prefer to read, see and hear?
BiG GEORGE - Am I critical? I do feel we suffer
from being on the edge of everything. Local TV, both commercial
and BBC have their HQ's in Norwich, then there's Southern Arts,
Midland Electric, Anglia Water etc etc. Milton Keynes should be
the centre of things not the furthest outpost
QUESTION - Your move into local politics resulted
in an abrupt resignation, sorry to be so cynical, but wasn't this
just a classic Big George publicity stunt?
BiG GEORGE - No it wasn't! I was sick and tired
of party politics ignoring the real needs of my town so I stood
on the platform of keep politicians out of local politics, thinking
that I would lose my deposit. Instead I took 57 percent of the
entire vote. At my first meeting I was elected chairman. During
the year I lead the council I tried my best to make a difference
(against the petty bureaucracy that hindered me at every turn).
I think the majority of residents of Stony would agree that I
made the council a more accountable body. But after some shameful
underhandedness I saw with regards to a building development,
coupled with the fact that one of the leading parties was looking
for dirt on me (and even though there ain't none, an accusation
can be just as damaging) I felt having the power to erect a hanging
flower basket outside the library wasn't worth doing a full time,
unpaid job. So I resigned after I had called the two most well
attended meetings in the towns history, where I spoke openly and
honestly about what was going on
QUESTION - As I understand it, you would love to
be Mayor of Milton Keynes?
BiG GEORGE - If the job came up, I think maybe I
would throw my hat in the ring. I love this city with all my heart
and soul, and think that I could wear a chain, press the flesh
and big up Milton Keynes as well as anyone. Plus, I've got no
puppet masters pulling my strings
QUESTION - Getting back to music for a minute, what
the hell is a musicologist? And how did you attain such a title?
BiG GEORGE - It's someone who can explain things
like a circle of 5ths or when music was first written down without
the people listening falling asleep. You attain it when you go
on TV programmes like Newsnight the Big Breakfast and they want
a job title for their caption
QUESTION - I know you can recite a long list of
very credible personal achievements but aren't you disappointed
the really big break has so far eluded you?
BiG GEORGE - What, like being in the Undertones
for a few years, banging out the same 15 songs and then .... obscurity!
No, I'm thrilled with the course of my career. How many other
people have played with the Duke Ellington Orchestra and Madness
and Eddie Floyd and Eddie and the Hot Rods and Nigel Kennedy and
Link Wray and Richard Clayderman and the Pink Fairies- do you
want me to go on?
QUESTION - Is there a curse on the city? I know
there's been some notable achievements, but to date no band or
performer has truly cracked it ( i.e. top of the pops, front of
N.M.E etc) you have done more than most to help, so why hasn't
a band or artist from MK made the mark?
BiG GEORGE - I would say it's because our local
commercial music station, Horizon Radio hasn't championed the
best of local pop talent. In the last 10 years there have been
over a dozen bands good enough to crack it, but apart from the
occasional apology play, our local FM radio has done NOTHING
QUESTION - So you are back with Auntie, how did
that come about?
BiG GEORGE - I'm a freelancer, I first worked for
the BBC in 1976, on Saturday Live on Radio One and have been doing
different things for the BBC ever since. Apart from the show on
Three Counties I'm a regular on the Fred McCauley show on BBC
Scotland, I do TV reports for East at Westminster on BBC2 and
am a spokesman for BBC Worldwide Music
QUESTION - Getting a talk-based station to play
music was some achievement how did you manage to convince the
powers to be?
BiG GEORGE - Blackmail ha ha ha, the simple truth
is, the boss offered me a job on Three Counties Radio, from 6pm
until 7pm every Monday Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday and I accepted
QUESTION - Were you like many in the local media
surprised the BBC didn't choose you to anchor the new BBC:MK breakfast
show? I'm reliably informed you did apply for the job, true?
BiG GEORGE - Yes, but my application was unsuccessful.
But no I wasn't surprised, Toby has worked incredibly hard to
get inside the psyche of Milton Keynes and is doing absolutely
brilliantly
QUESTION - You have passionately and publicly criticised
the radio industry for not breaking new acts. Now you are part
of the industry is your own conscience clear you are doing everything
you can to make a difference?
BiG GEORGE - Crystal clear. I put my balls on the
line every month in the pages of the most successful music magazine
in Europe: Sound on Sound about the shocking state of the music
industry and the seeming collusion between the high street retailers
and the major record labels (all of whom are foreign). But if
you're asking about why I don't play local bands on my Three Counties
Show, the answer is, I do! Supakarma, Paul Bell, Graham Robins,
Mark Chapman, Violent Delight, Rush Hour, A.G.E. - all local to
the Three Counties area have all had their first or second airing
on my show. The thing is, the show I am contracted to do, Big
George's Sound of Music is about the very best in music, of all
genres and vintages. From Louis Armstrong to Beethoven to the
Kinks to the number one session guitarist in Nashville to Aretha
Franklin to Maria Callas to hundreds more all time greats. The
likes of Tuesday Strange have a long way to go before their contribution
to music secures them a place on my show one night
QUESTION - The music industry we both love has dwindled
into nothing more than a shallow plagiaristic parody of past glories.
It saddens and annoys me, as music is still an emotional and very
exciting medium yet I feel the all-important stepping-stones have
now been removed and there's no industry infrastructure left.
How do you see it and can the industry be saved like it was by
the Pistols and co?
BiG GEORGE - My hope is the five major labels buy
each other up and then drop all their artists except Britney Spears
and Limp Bizkit. Why? Well maybe then the world might realise
that, over the last decade and a half our children have been force
fed manufactured celebrity tosh with no artistic substance, just
vehicles to sell pizzas, fizzy drinks and anything else they can
brand
QUESTION - Back to the family, it must be a bit
weird being Grandad at just 43?
BiG GEORGE - I'm 44 now, so it's a bit easier to
take. As for it being weird, not at all, it's Fantastic
QUESTION - Is the city's future bright, orange or
bleak?
BiG GEORGE - Milton Keynes is THE City of the Future,
regardless of whether the Queen agrees and decrees. All it needs
is affordable housing for the children of the families who have
made this place the success it is and a football stadium
Interviewed by Lee Scriven
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